in the meantime
- This has come to be an increasingly important lens.
- There are lots of descriptions of systems that could be awesome, but nobody knows how to get there and the system doesn't answer the question of what to do in the meantime.
- If you're trying to transcend coercive power dynamics, you need to be aware of the way that those power dynamics show up in the meantime
- Related
- Michael "Valentine" Smith talks about the viability of a transition process, requiring that it be functional in the meantime, not just in the limit.
- Mark Lippmann talks about handledness as a first-person experience of everything working in the meantime and in good time
18 linked references
meta-protocol
- both are the system that navigates the question of what to do in the meantime when your protocol (for meditation or communication) fails
May 30th, 2023
notes from MalJess convo › M ~> "ultimately the MalVal stuff knows it needs the phys… › Jess took issue with "ultimately", › which I got an insight from that I think was somewhat dif… › but in the sense that it needs to happen NOW - Gall's Law…
Podcast summaries
With Joe Lightfoot — Podcast with Joe Lightfoot Transcript › Outline of ideas discussed (I'm 'M', Joe is 'J')
- 1:02:54 - 1:13:04 - Practicing Game B/NNTD in a world that is predominantly Game A oriented. How will it all play out? in the meantime What do we do in the meantime if we can't dialogue?
January 3rd, 2022
- cosmic joke + in the meantime from falseknees
November 26th, 2021
What are the different ways group confluence can be limited? › symmetrical differences › different aesthetics
- (this shouldn't, in the limit, affect conversational coherence much, but it does in the meantime both because people have trouble differentiating it and because people are afraid of losing touch with their own aesthetics)
- connection with in the meantime
psychopaths
Too-pithy summary of my perspective. Written March 6th, 2020 › Some cases of apparent clinical psychopathy may be just a…
- I'm not suggesting more marginal effort go towards this at this phase, nor am I suggesting people be naive to the damage that anyone's schemas can cause in the meantime, whether "psychopathic" or otherwise.
August 1st, 2021
Widening the Bridges: Beyond Consent and Autonomy - relev… › then autonomy › > With intensity can come the honor and genuine joy of mu…
- but it's also true in the meantime even if a sufficiently integrated being would in some sense always be feeling enthusiastic towards the best possible move they're aware of
July 26th, 2021
- it seems to me that this one has something to do with in the meantime / in the limit
May 25th, 2021
- Duncan Sabien points out "in the leantime"
- > It's likely not an actually good term, since it's pretty opaque. But like, how well you can weather the lean times. If you have $100 in the bank, then you can only handle small hits before you flatline; if you have $100,000 then you can handle much more.
Sequence on NNTD
topics — I want an auto-generated N/M progress bar here › not all positive-sum outcomes are win-wins \ omniwin
- relates to What's your deal?, BATNAs, and in the meantime
- in the meantime also relates to Gall's Law and Neurath's boat I just noticed—a system has to be (in some sense) functional the whole time as it evolves
May 1st, 2021
- this doesn't require any malevolence, it just naturally happens by accident because the person with the better background default in the meantime is less motivated to seek a solution
- now you still sort of have an error (you're still hungry) but as long as you're happy to wait until the food is done and don't feel the need to snack in the meantime then in a different sense nothing is erroneous because the food is readying in good time
April 26th, 2021
- (which pairs interestingly with in the meantime!)
March 23rd, 2021
[preliminaries for communal, meta-rational, institutional… › > Farther above, I’ve emphasized how different people are…
- very relevant to NNTD - in the meantime
Home
- A huge part of what gets in the way of even discovering such a solution, in the meantime, is the compromise-based mindset, which necessitates constantly defending one's own needs from a perception that others will try to undermine those needs getting met. However, this protective energy is to others the very threat that one is oneself defending from! And it invites it in return.
- see defensiveness = protectiveness for more on this dynamic
March 9th, 2021
pep talk thing › creating an encouraging, enthusiastic narrative around do… › someone might never work out on their own, and have a lot…
- and like, that legit just can work in the meantime