awayness
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February 28th, 2022
- I'm working on a post called towardsness & awayness motivation aren't symmetric
- and my first draft has a section in it on reward is just the temporary relief of punishment
- but as I wrote it I found myself noting that that isn't quite true
- it's a useful pith but technically sort of incorrect
- the main reason it's incorrect is that it implies a punisher
- now in some sense in many cases the punisher is yourself...? hm.
- ANYWAY
- ultimately I think I'm concluding that in order for my point to not get distracted here or over-critiqued by skeptics, I want to just remove this whole section.
- aha! but it's easier I think to point at this wrt "rewarding yourself" (by feeling good or with cookies or something)
- scrap
- Of course, you'll also have to deal with guilt or fear of hell, otherwise there's nowhere that you're safe. Although even if you're going to hell when you die, it seems to me that your body would still want to be in a chill physiological state when you're chilling.
February 26th, 2022
- from a Intend user, re the commitment contracts feature - relates to towardsness & awayness & procrastination
- > You bring an interesting point up about how we want to perceive our motivations for goal completion. There's a podcast with Rich Roll and Andrew Huberman, and in it Dr Huberman states, that, to the body, it doesn't matter how we are motivated (either by passion or pain of losing money - which is another aspect of motivation in that podcast, Humberman goes on to state that there are two different types of procrastination (hopefully I'm correct on that) one is anxious/fearful the other would be hypo-aroused. If that's true, then the latter type would find it more advantageous to use extrinsic motivation.
- the two different types of procrastination seem like a vital component for any model of akrasia & commitment contracts
- although I guess I think in some cases the way Beeminder operates is that people have anxiety around school so they get school done, but unless they also generate anxiety around making sure to hang out with friends they they just become socially isolated, or whatever 😅
- like, someone might even already be getting their homework done due to the inherent anxiety of grades & deadlines
- but they put off hanging out with friends unless they beemind it
- (the podcast btw seems to be Rich's podcast, interviewing Huberman, not an episode of Huberman's podcast)