August 15th, 2021
- I think this comes from PCT? see tweets about it
- but also "no news is good news" on a multi-person scale
- 17:21 - Eric - prereqs for NNTD
- "good bets"
- as one way that someone might arrive at
- perspective-taking - ability to see the sense that it would make to have done something from a particular vantage point, and respect that sensemaking even once having more data later
- S > if someone were missing this, they might be looking for the "right thing" and thinking that
- E > microcovid - not based on never getting covid, based on 1% chance per year
- S > I think this helps with regret/blame
- M > yeah, Beer Game as another source of non-empathetic perspective-taking
2 linked references
August 14th, 2021
- Notes August 15th, 2021 about what it means to "get on the same page"
- S > On a more "object" level (the level of the symptom, or the thought / feeling / behavior that's in conflict), getting on the same page would involve:
- A shared / coherent understanding of each part's viewpoint - what features of the situation matter to each part, what each part is seeing about those features, and what each part is wanting in relation to those features
- From there, deciding how to navigate the situation as a whole person, including what "bets" to make (and maybe also what to do "in the meantime")
- M > If we're on the same page, then we share a sense of what the next course of action is, or we agree we don't know
- Notes August 15th, 2021 on what this process is about, what it's for, how to describe purpose & structure
- M > non-empathetic perspective taking
- structural perspective-taking
- not NOT empathetic, but not requiring empathy
- M > It's not trying to sort out what's going on deep down for the parts. It's creating a context that's conducive to them listening to each other and being able to make sense of it together.
- Creating the capacity for them to talk to each other
- M > Without sorting out ANY of the object-level details, if we can change the overall stance that the parts are able to take towards each other, then there could be a basis for bringing our creativity to bear on sorting out what's going on, rather than fighting or giving up.
- (EMS talking about moves that don't break the container of the game... re Finite and Infinite Games)
- M > This process is aiming towards Juxtaposition ; it's just that what's being juxtaposed is bigger & messier than just a couple of statements
- you're juxtaposing two vantage points until they parallax
- S > you had some levels of reconciliation...? one was "I see how anyone in your position couldn't have done anything different"...?
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- S > In this ITD process, you're taking a situation that was previously a double bind, and removing the blocks to talking about it!
- removing the meta-level blocks to metacommunication!
- M > That ^ is the only problem! #koan
- S > Yeah, everything else can work itself out over time...