The Creature that Eats Moloch
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October 15th, 2025
- thinking about Moloch & The Creature that Eats Moloch and re-reading Meditations on Moloch and the bit towards the end about Elua (which is kind of the supercooperation cluster)
- and I'm like "hmm yeah some gods want to evolve into Elua (I think the judeochristian one very much does) and others might want to get included as part of the overall flow, but others' very nature (eg Moloch's) is essentially opposed
April 21st, 2023
- I've seen a creature that eats Moloch. The creature is hard to describe, and currently asleep
- Malcolm's 100× vision talks about this at the end:
- > This collective brain and collective body are themselves part of a larger network of other similar superorganisms, which sometimes overlap somewhat. This network also includes more self-contained companies that are operating using a similar self-energizing collective-intelligence-oriented culture and probably some of those companies were initially incubated in the “collective body” level.
- > These superorganisms form a kind of virtual economy, in the same sense that a country or city has an economy. Part of what makes there be an economy is that economic activity is WAY cheaper within the clusters that mutually recognize each other as part of this new Game-B-esque attractor, due to increased capacity to do trust-building and coordination. This economy is able to be remarkably creative and productive compared to the rest of the world even though we’re operating in ways that aren’t built on the false accounting of externalizing costs, and thus has huge net exports (to the old economy) of an increasing number of goods & services, and is well on its way to outcompeting or converting Game-A businesses until finally Moloch eats itself.
- > creature is hard to describe (and currently asleep) but...
the basic gist is that moloch occurs fractally due to failing to be able to find/design/recognize win-wins that both/all parties can verify are better for all. iow, a failure to scale consciousness. - > but then trust-building capacity among/between systems that can do this successfully is so great that they outcompete systems that CAN'T do it, which means forces everybody to become a supercooperator
in some sense Moloch eats itself