supercooperation cluster

created 2024-04-17 · edited 2024-04-17 · open in Roam

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Ben Hoffman's work on depravity is relevant to superdefection, and something that reasoning about supercooperation cluster would do well to account for
- > There is a useful framework for understanding how public discourse degrades, which distinguishes between guilt, shame, and depravity. A guilty person has violated a norm and intends to repair the breach by owning up and making amends. An ashamed person intends to conceal the violation, which means deflecting investigation. A depraved person has generalized the intent to conceal into a coalitional strategy: I will cover for you if you cover for me, and together we will derail any investigation that threatens either of us.

(thinking about... supercooperation cluster, Stuart Kauffman, and vaguely the David Temple one... cosmoerotic humanism? vaguely)

thinking about Moloch & The Creature that Eats Moloch and re-reading Meditations on Moloch and the bit towards the end about Elua (which is kind of the supercooperation cluster)
- and I'm like "hmm yeah some gods want to evolve into Elua (I think the judeochristian one very much does) and others might want to get included as part of the overall flow, but others' very nature (eg Moloch's) is essentially opposed

it makes no sense to threaten to not cooperate with the supercooperation cluster