starting a religion
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June 19th, 2024
- convo today
- friend > god as anthropomorphism of reality
- we sometimes try to negotiate with god
- me > it's not only possible but wise to negotiate with god
- in part because what you're negotiating with is your conception of god
- friend > I don't like the conflation of god and my conception of god
- but... I can't escape the fact that whatever god I'm relating with is always my conception of god
- now I'm naked
- other friend > tracing a self-reference loop
- dereferencing a pointer
- a paradox associated with the fact that you have an icon meant to represent something that [can't be readily referred to]
- the icon is self-dissolving
- so you might as well pick a form of the icon that's easiest for you to interface with
- friend > story of chimps buying food with tokens
- but they can't buy themselves out of the environment with tokens
- helplessness
- me > that situation is contrived
- there's a being that outclasses you, that exists outside your reality, and is controlling your situation in a contrived/arbitrary way
- that has been how many people have conceived of god
- but, it seems to me, is incorrect
- huhhh Uncle God instead of Father God
- avuncular vibes instead of paternalistic vibes
- will generally love you and be there for you, but will let you make your own mistakes rather than trying to force you to do it all right
- friend > I was talking about not negotiating with god in the sense of like
- saying "I won't do my taxes if I don't get the green light"
- it makes no sense to threaten to not cooperate with the supercooperation cluster
- I was missing the positive negotiation part
December 23rd, 2023
- links to this post:
- also the book
- which is in part about the shift towards propositional beliefs instead of practices, in protestantism