Malcolm Ocean's roamblog

September 24th, 2022

edited 2022-09-25 · open in Roam
  • lil thread on "the important thing is that I've found a way to feel superior to both" my threads on twitter
  • new articulation of full-fractal buy-in
    • context: Michael "Valentine" Smith sent this
      • I recently (re?) read Scott's summary of The Mind Illuminated. Something really stuck out for me in it. Been noodling me for days now. I've been wanting to run it by you.
      • Here's an excerpt apparently quoted from the book (bolded emphasis mine):
        • > What makes [enlightenment/cessation event] the most powerful of all Insight experiences is what happens in the last few moments of consciousness leading up to the cessation. First, an object arises in consciousness that would normally produce craving. It can be almost anything. However, what happens next is quite unusual: the mind doesn’t respond with the habitual craving and clinging. Rather, it fully understands the object from the perspective of Insight: as a mental construct, completely “empty” of any real substance, impermanent, and a cause of suffering. This profound realization leads to the next and final moment of complete equanimity, in which the shared intention of all the unified sub-minds is to not respond. Because nothing is projected into consciousness, the cessation event arises. With cessation, *the tuned-in sub-minds simultaneously realize* that everything appearing in consciousness is simply the product of their own activity. In other words, they realize that the input they’re accustomed to receiving is simply a result of their own fabricating activities.
      • (Well, okay, the bolding didn't work, alas.)
      • The lead-up to the cessation offers a kind of common-knowledge cascade of the type you & I have been talking about.
      • Something feels really significant to me about this.
      • The rest of Scott's summary gives the impression that the book's model is, there are two kinds of places consciousness can go: RH & LH. RH is expanded awareness. LH is intense focus. But you can build consciousness itself by stretching it to do more of both. Stabilizing attention & expanding awareness, more & more at the same time, since they kind of oppose.
      • That consciousness provides the space for these common knowledge cascades to happen.
      • These feels like the internal version of the external social thing we're attempting. Somehow my thinking is skipping a beat on a detail here though.
    • my response
      • whoaaaaa very cool
      • maybe tweet all of this and see who else chimes in
      • the other main internal common-knowledge-cascade I've been tracking is something called full-fractal buy-in
      • idk if it's isomorphic; certainly isn't obviously isomorphic but Ryan has a frame where the core insight of stream entry is something like "you can actually actually just do what you want though" in which case they might somehow map
      • and FFBI is basically the realization by all of the parts:
        • 1. that if they had a way to find win-wins that worked for all of them they'd want to use it
        • 2. that if they had a way to CREATE A way that worked for all of them then they'd want to create it
        • 3. that if they attend to 1 & 2 and attempt to achieve this while allowing all parts veto power ("I don't trust this process; it needs to be somehow different") then this will bootstrap 2 which will bootstrap 1
        • right and collective consciousness does the same thing
        • I wonder what it would do to my sense of motivation to meditate if I saw it as creating increased space for common-knowledge cascades to happen internally
        • that feels very motivating