Malcolm Ocean's roamblog

November 23rd, 2021

edited 2021-11-23 · open in Roam
  • interesting bit by Hephaistos Fnord about naive trust
    • > I think that convincing others that you genuinely mean them well is far more important than actually meaning them well.

      If you genuinely mean them well but fuck up, but they dont believe you, then you lose trust altogether.

      If you dont mean them well, but they trust that you do, then they will continue to forgive your "mistakes", which will allow you to keep learning until an equilibrium is reached.
    • > Trust, even misplaced trust, is more important than sincerity. Once trust is gone, you simply lose the ability to continue learning the "how".
    • > FINALLY, because of Goodhart's law, virtue signalling, or whatever you want to call it, it is more costly to actually be trustworthy than it is to deceptively maintain trust. Since people are having to allocate a scarce resource (their attention and time and trust), this is a zero-sum competitive game, which means the bad actors will drive out the bad [I assume he meant good].
    • > Which means that to continue, you need to abandon caring for others, simply to maintain the competitive illusion that you still do.
  • interesting thread by visakanv that connects with PCT
    • oooh, found a cutting metaphor that I actually like: the Gordian Knot
    • here "cutting" refers to "refusing to accept others' assumptions about how a problem must be solved
      • > Both Plutarch and Arrian relate that, according to Aristobulus, Alexander the Great pulled the linchpin from the pole to which the yoke was fastened, exposing the two ends of the cord and allowing him to untie the knot without having to cut through it. Some classical scholars regard this as more plausible than the popular account.
        • which suggests that even here, cutting doesn't work!