finding parallax between Michael "Valentine" Smith & Malcolm Ocean re fractal cointelligence
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November 6th, 2022
- we dig into this somewhat in the middle of this long video but end up more argumentative than dialogical
- talking about scraping off skin cells and honoring the fractal parts down as well as up:
- also re parallax:
- MS > Notice that in the parallax analogy/example, neither eye ever sees through the other. What happens instead is, each eye learns how to coordinate with the other, and a separate process (the visual cortex) creates a "third eye" that does in fact see out of both eyes simultaneously. A larger "you" gets constructed out of two smaller "you"s, and it's only the larger "you" that needs to see from both vantage points.
- I don't know how much that actually generalizes. But I think it does some, and maybe a lot. Like, I don't ever need to see the world through your interface thing — but I need to have a way of coordinating with it enough that our process of jamming together allows an emergent "we" to arise that "sees" through both of us. (And you with mine, likewise, of course.)
- MO > Yeah, this is another open question for me of things that are similar and different at different scales, because it obviously analogizes quite well, but to name a simple contrast, I clearly can imagine the world through your perspective in a way that the eyes can't and don't need to. Like if we're facing each other, I can imagine your view, in which I'm seeing my face, but I'm not calling it "my face" I'm calling it "Malcolm's face", etc etc. So that's clearly unlike eyes in that way. And then there's a question of in what other ways is it similar/different.
- MO > Speaking of parallax, I'm enjoying how we seem to have a bit we're doing where you tend to find yourself as the "maybe it's basically the same at all fractal scales" eye and I find myself as the "maybe it's actually very different at all fractal scales" eye! Like that came up re scraping off skin cells. I continue to be very excited about having a conversation where we try to dovetail all of this!