August 11th, 2024
- #2tweet however, outside of a deeply authoritarian context, the best move in response to this is not asking "may I?" but saying "oh yeah good point, silly of me to ask you if I can when only reality gets to answer that question. let's find out!" and just going
- schoolteachers saying "idk, *can* you go to the bathroom?" are being assholes, but disambiguating capability & permission is worth standing for
- however, outside of a deeply authoritarian context, the best move in response to this is not asking "may I?" but saying "oh yeah good point, silly of me to ask you if I can when only reality gets to answer that question. let's find out!" and just going
- by "not deeply authoritarian" I basically mean that if you ever exchange genuine laughter with your
- but outside emergencies, people should rarely need permission to go to the bathroom.
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- "idk can you", in an honest context, should be taken as permission, speech act wise
- maybe they physically CAN stop you (not just punish you if you do it without their perm)
- potential names
- [incredible] mechanism fallacy
- no such communication fallacy
- there's no intelligence outside the ego fallacy
- / ego is sole intelligence fallacy
- examples
- examples of claims that activate this
- women often don't give birth while there are important things for them to take care of before they give birth
- vaginal pain when having sex with someone you don't trust
- sarno method for back pain
- your body often knows when it's the right time to wake up, even without an alarm clock
- sometimes you instinctively avoid certain people or situations that later turn out to be problematic, without knowing why at the time
- your body might crave specific foods containing nutrients you're deficient in, even if you're unaware of the deficiency
- our body can adjust your gait and posture to prevent injury, even before you're consciously aware of a potential hazard
- you might find yourself humming a song whose lyrics turn out to be relevant to what you're going through or how you're feeling, without consciously choosing it
- your body might prompt you to stretch or move in ways that alleviate muscle tension you weren't consciously aware of
- some versions of chakra-type stuff
- bringing loving attention to part of your body can sometimes help it heal
- (+ or can help you notice what might be needed in order to heal it)
- I think it needs a lil rephrasing
- and the claim is, importantly not "this will always heal everything"
- noncentral/complex examples
- that meditation or mindfulness practices could have physiological effects
- that dreams could have any meaningful content related to one's life, insisting they're random neuron firing
- body language conveying information the person isn't consciously aware of, insisting all communication must be intentional
- you might feel inexplicably drawn to a particular book in a bookstore that ends up containing information you needed
- stress-induced immune suppression leading to increased susceptibility to illness
- (this one is noncentral)
- stress or unconscious psychological factors appear to influence fertility, despite no clear physical cause for infertility
- things this fallacy maybe should reject if it were consistent but doesn't because they're too obvious
- holding your poop til you get home from a long drive (deliberately or unconsciously)
- relevant terms
- causality / causal links
- example of mind projection fallacy — person doesn't know what a mechanism would be therefore claims no such mechanism could exist
- (embodied) intelligence
- top-down bottom-up
- control
- intention
- psycho-physical
- that the low-level thing would have to understand the high-level concepts
- communication
- egoic
- adaptiveness of bodymind system
- general thoughts
- I suspect that part of what's going on is that people have some sort of generalization about something that if they questioned it they wouldn't know where to stop with other woo stuff
- and/or they've overgeneralized the idea that certain supposed forms of communication are actually confirmation bias or sampling bias
- C > maybe they would feel out of control
- oooh ego feels relevant to this
- left hemisphere / mind
- my response to Claude - hmmm these are almost like... TOO low-level or something. kinda good. but like... more like things the ego wishes it could control, but in fact it can't, but in fact some other intelligence in your body is doing so
- my threads on twitter — short one referencing meta-protocol, symmetry / trust-building frameworks must be symmetric, mostly quoting Romeo Stevens